#1 2017-10-31 16:07:11

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SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Hello guys.
After feedbacks and opinions from some of you, I propose to vote for disabling bots on SiMPLE RtR SW server on weekends, from friday till sunday, 15.00 - 01.00 CET.We can try this for a month if majority agrees, and if it works good will continue this practice.
Please vote for one of six answers.If you have some interesting ideas on this topic feel free to share them here.If you don't recognize yourself in any of 6 answers of the poll you can leave a comment  if you want.

Disable bots on RTR SW during weekends, from 15.00 CET till 01.00, from friday till sunday?

  1. I play often on RtR SW and I agree(votes 10 [30.3%])

    30.3%

  2. I play often on RtR SW and I disagree(votes 9 [27.27%])

    27.27%

  3. I rarely play on RtR SW and I agree(votes 6 [18.18%])

    18.18%

  4. I rarely play on RtR SW and I disagree(votes 4 [12.12%])

    12.12%

  5. I don't play there but I would like to if no bots(votes 3 [9.09%])

    9.09%

  6. I don't play on RtR SW and I don't care if there are bots or not(votes 1 [3.03%])

    3.03%

Total votes: 33

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#31 2017-11-05 13:37:30

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Hi guys!
If i am correct;some of the maps that run on the server are no normal coopmaps,
thats why it says conquest in serverdescription.
As i recall there are just a few coopmaps in the game.

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#32 2017-11-05 17:03:25

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Today we asked many times for !nobots on RtR/SW server. Admins was here and ignore us without any reason. Is it difficult to ask "Who wants bots on or off ?" ?
3 players were for !nobots and 0 for bots on. The others dont care. In this case nobots was the majority


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#33 2017-11-05 17:31:49

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Bullshit!  Lets get it right if you are going to bitch and whine about it!

The 3 Avernes players wanted bots off as usual the other 28 players did not support this, as in they did not vote to have bots removed.  You then took this as a 3 - 0 majority which of course it is not.
The admins online at the time did not ignore you in fact after the constant whining they asked you to take it to the forums, which you have now done, but at least tell the truth when you do.

The bots were being automatically removed as more players joined so I really do not know what all the fuss is about?

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#34 2017-11-05 18:00:05

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

When I asked who want to keep the bots in no one answered. So, 3 yes + 0 no + 28 blank vote = yes


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#35 2017-11-05 18:14:42

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Coco wrote:

When I asked who want to keep the bots in no one answered. So, 3 yes + 0 no + 28 blank vote = yes

Hello Coco!
A majority should vote for it.Those who did not reply can either think it´s a no or they don´t care.
I think that`s what most would see it as.
It can´t be that all say yes by being quit......

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#36 2017-11-05 18:20:36

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

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Bullshit!  Lets get it right if you are going to bitch and whine about it!

The 3 Avernes players wanted bots off as usual the other 28 players did not support this, as in they did not vote to have bots removed.  You then took this as a 3 - 0 majority which of course it is not.
The admins online at the time did not ignore you in fact after the constant whining they asked you to take it to the forums, which you have now done, but at least tell the truth when you do.

The bots were being automatically removed as more players joined so I really do not know what all the fuss is about?

We suggested many times to admins to ask "Who wants bots on or off ?". Because when the question is "who dont want bots ?" that doesnt mean others want bots on. I dont understand why admins dont want to ask "who wants bots on ?". In my opinion most of players dont care about bots (on or off) and even some players probably dont see bots are on. So I dont understand what is the problem to ask who is FOR or AGAINST bots (and not just against). Then we can see in the game and not try to imagine here who is for but didnt say it, who is against but didnt say it, who didnt care, who didnt speak english, who was the noobs they didnt know bots were on, ...

Probably we dont have the same opinion about bots, but maybe we should be agree that the fair question to ask is for and against. Ok for you ?


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#37 2017-11-05 19:31:08

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

(BB)DinkW wrote:

Bullshit!  Lets get it right if you are going to bitch and whine about it!

The 3 Avernes players wanted bots off as usual the other 28 players did not support this, as in they did not vote to have bots removed.  You then took this as a 3 - 0 majority which of course it is not.
The admins online at the time did not ignore you in fact after the constant whining they asked you to take it to the forums, which you have now done, but at least tell the truth when you do.

The bots were being automatically removed as more players joined so I really do not know what all the fuss is about?


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#38 2017-11-05 19:56:28

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Dont make my Dinkey angry !!!  smile

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#39 2017-11-05 20:13:41

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

C'est exactement ça. Niveau cour de récré^^ Et le pire c'est que je participe !


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#40 2017-11-05 20:18:46

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

3 or 4 of you asked to turn off bots, i hate bots and most of all will like to turn them off, but majority was quiet when you asked , if 1/3 players want its ok for me but there was 25-30 players and only your 3 or 4 votes .

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#41 2017-11-05 20:44:40

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Vojislav wrote:

3 or 4 of you asked to turn off bots, i hate bots and most of all will like to turn them off, but majority was quiet when you asked , if 1/3 players want its ok for me but there was 25-30 players and only your 3 or 4 votes .

And what is the problem for you to ask who is for or against bots ?


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#42 2017-11-05 21:14:18

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

The problem is the  ( I PRESUME )  Should we presume that the bots are voting to ?  Some time I will say yes  to !nobots and some time I wont answer because I could care less or not enought players . 

PS: May be we should change to !botsvote instead of !Mappsvotes ??? smile

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#43 2017-11-05 21:16:33

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

There is no problem at all with that but think of it like a map vote, ask once and if its not going to happen leave it.  Repeatedly asking for the same thing is annoying and disruptive to other players, maybe you could spare a thought for them?

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#44 2017-11-05 21:51:51

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Satinca wrote:

And what is the problem for you to ask who is for or against bots ?

  You already ask at start of every map. Whats the difference if i ask again.

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#45 2017-11-05 23:33:53

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Vojislav wrote:
Satinca wrote:

And what is the problem for you to ask who is for or against bots ?

  You already ask at start of every map. Whats the difference if i ask again.

Maybe it creates a synallagmacy in the choice.

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#46 2017-11-06 00:07:21

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Or maybe its just annoying.

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#47 2017-11-06 02:38:44

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

(BB)DinkW wrote:

The 3 Avernes players wanted bots off as usual the other 28 players did not support this,

Thats a total of 31 players, the server has 48 slots so that would be max 17 slots left for bots.

Maybe you could try lower the nr of slots to say 42 (or even 38 maybe?), that would left a maximum of 11/(7) bots playing. Adapt the server after how its used.

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#48 2017-11-06 09:48:40

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Hello guys!
We cant adapt to all wishes,especially when it comes from only a few of the players at that time.
When the discussion started yesterday there where in total 7 bots.
If you can´t handle 7 bots;play conquest instead.

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#49 2017-11-06 10:02:47

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

I heard singleplayer is good for bots


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#50 2017-11-06 13:01:25

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Bots occupy strategic vehicles all the time without actually using them. Unlike singleplayer you can't force them out. Most of the time bots commit teamkill, and they can spot well camuflaged scout where normal player couldn't.

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#51 2017-11-06 18:51:05

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

(BB)DinkW wrote:

There is no problem at all with that but think of it like a map vote, ask once and if its not going to happen leave it.  Repeatedly asking for the same thing is annoying and disruptive to other players, maybe you could spare a thought for them?

Its all I demand : admin should ask at the beginning who wants bots et who dont. Quick, clear and easy.
And when admins dont do the this little job, I repeat my question !

Vojislav wrote:
Satinca wrote:

And what is the problem for you to ask who is for or against bots ?

  You already ask at start of every map. Whats the difference if i ask again.

I am not admin. I have no power. I didnt ask my question to all players (because its nonsense, I cant do anything then). I told my own opinion (always the same !nobots) as some other players. And I ask to the admin to do his job : who wants bots or not, then !nobots or not. Admins should ask, and admin should follow the majority then. Not me, I'm nobody !

bud wrote:

Thats a total of 31 players, the server has 48 slots so that would be max 17 slots left for bots.

Maybe you could try lower the nr of slots to say 42 (or even 38 maybe?), that would left a maximum of 11/(7) bots playing. Adapt the server after how its used.

The less bots play, the most fun will be the game wink

DirtyDiana wrote:

If you can´t handle 7 bots;play conquest instead.

If you can't handle !nobots, play singleplayer instead.


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#52 2017-11-06 19:40:50

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Hello Satinca with a few friends!
If you can´t handle a majority descition,i feel sorry for you;must be hard.
But as i said it´s the majority that rules about switching of bots.
That people don´t say yes or no,does not mean they agree with you automatikly.
Don´t you have something more important to do than whine about it?
Move on!

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#53 2017-11-06 20:20:23

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Politics off, bad faith off, back to the subject of the vote please gentlemen.

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#54 2017-11-06 20:33:57

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Satinca wrote:
(BB)DinkW wrote:

There is no problem at all with that but think of it like a map vote, ask once and if its not going to happen leave it.  Repeatedly asking for the same thing is annoying and disruptive to other players, maybe you could spare a thought for them?

Its all I demand : admin should ask at the beginning who wants bots et who dont. Quick, clear and easy.
And when admins dont do the this little job, I repeat my question !

Vojislav wrote:
Satinca wrote:

And what is the problem for you to ask who is for or against bots ?

  You already ask at start of every map. Whats the difference if i ask again.

I am not admin. I have no power. I didnt ask my question to all players (because its nonsense, I cant do anything then). I told my own opinion (always the same !nobots) as some other players. And I ask to the admin to do his job : who wants bots or not, then !nobots or not. Admins should ask, and admin should follow the majority then. Not me, I'm nobody !

bud wrote:

Thats a total of 31 players, the server has 48 slots so that would be max 17 slots left for bots.

Maybe you could try lower the nr of slots to say 42 (or even 38 maybe?), that would left a maximum of 11/(7) bots playing. Adapt the server after how its used.

The less bots play, the most fun will be the game wink

DirtyDiana wrote:

If you can´t handle 7 bots;play conquest instead.

If you can't handle !nobots, play singleplayer instead.


This reply is interesting in the way you contradict yourself throughout :-

"I am not admin. I have no power" .........ok so far.............but then ................ "Its all I demand ".......... suddenly you are making demands!
"And when admins dont do the this little job, I repeat my question !" .................. and repeat you did to the point of being really annoying to everyone else and telling us all that the majority had decided even after two admins had asked the question regarding bots, this is all in the logs oh and by the way the admins do not work for you they represent all,............................. but then you say ............."I told my own opinion" ... oh so not a demand after all.

The 3 of you vote and think its decided because you have all voted for it!  You must think very highly of yourselves and not about any other players?
As the 3 of you will be hitting the minus button anyway, you will note I have not lowered myself to that level, let me give you my opinion.  The 3 of you are quite arrogant and only follow the rules if it suits you, and if you think you are not being watched, rude to other players and act like petulant children if you don't get your way.  If the admin does not do what you demand then you all leave, its almost like if you wont play the game like I want then I will take my ball and go.

I think we are all adults here and maybe we should behave as such what do you think?

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#55 2017-11-06 21:15:31

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

DirtyDiana wrote:

Hello Satinca with a few friends!
If you can´t handle a majority descition,i feel sorry for you;must be hard.
But as i said it´s the majority that rules about switching of bots.
That people don´t say yes or no,does not mean they agree with you automatikly.
Don´t you have something more important to do than whine about it?
Move on!

Rgr
DirtyDiana

(BB)DinkW wrote:

The 3 of you vote and think its decided because you have all voted for it!  You must think very highly of yourselves and not about any other players?

I want to follow the majority decision. But before this, we have to know what is the majority decision. That's why admins should ask who wants bots or not.

You seems to think all players who dont answer anything want to play with bots. I disagree. In my opinion lot of players dont read the question (so they dont answer), dont care, dont speak english, dont know to use "K" to answer, dont know bots are on, dont know admins are here and who is admin, dont know its possible to disable bots, ... Maybe I m wrong. Maybe you are wrong. I propose an easy solution to fix it : ask who wants and who dont.


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#56 2017-11-06 22:00:00

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Hello Satinca !

As i said before,you see the rules as you like and try to benefit from that.
Luckely  you are  NOT an admin and can set the server to your pleasure.
Destroying the game for others by constantly asking for nobots is childish,
If i ask if people wants bots off and get no reply,i will always take that as NO.
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#57 2017-11-07 11:27:45

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Guys, lets go back to the original topic please.
We voted; there is more votes pro then contrary.I contacted Nameless for help to try a first week-end with bots.After that one we will discuss again and see the feedbacks.
Good idea from Coco-make 1 weekend with bots and the next one without.It would be a good compromiss in my opinion.


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#58 2017-11-11 08:16:45

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

When does it take place?

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#59 2017-11-11 11:49:16

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

Hi Bidji,
Im contacting Mc Coffee to host it, so we have to wait for him, please be patient.
I will keep updating this topic.
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#60 2017-11-11 13:49:34

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Re: SiMPLE RtR SW: no bots on week-ends?

I think tuia is around, you may ask him.

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