#1 2012-10-04 21:39:56

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Ban Appeal : ich

Hi,

Today (3 minutes ago) I was playing on Team Simple FRA, and I got a bug with a plane, as if something was blocking it on the way.
Then, I got banned, although I didn't disturb gameplay or Teamkilled.
So I would like the ban to be canceled. People who know me know that I'm a serious player, with teamplay, I don't cheat, I don't tk (or unvoluntary it happends)

Please.

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#2 2012-10-04 22:14:25

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

I guess you flew into a death bubble and thats like getting blocked by something hidden. A death bubble is around a headquarter of one of the teams. So as you may not know its not allowed to attack the mainbase of the enemy on Simple. So some admin banned you for that after you died by that hidden thing. That ban isnt reasonable at all and im sorry for that. Be patient and wait for Lecters or Tuias answer.

P.S.: Im just guessing lets see what they say.

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#3 2012-10-04 22:34:18

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Hi ich,

You are unbanned.

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#4 2012-10-04 23:09:54

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Thank you, tuia.
Joker, if you read this : I don't think it was a death bubble because this bug appeared first by stopping my plane in its course off the ground. I explain : my plane runned on the ground of 4/5 meters then stopped as if something blocked it. Then I waited and 4/5 meters ahead it happened again. The bug was the plane, not the ground !!! And when I get out of it other players took it and they had the same trouble...
The reason why I was banned is unexplainable. I know about baseraping I've been playing on these servers for months and months. I know all about the rules and never wander around in enemy's base, except for CTF maps...

I don't understand where it comes from, that's the first time it happends to me. The map was Bocage, Conquest. If you hear about.

Anyway thanks for all, and see you on your servers.

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#5 2012-10-04 23:19:38

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

That's interesting information. Only reason I can come up is that there was a static object (invisible to the clients) blocking the plane, but only the server can place any static object (buildings, sandbags, trees, etc.), unless it's some kind of bug.

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#6 2012-10-04 23:51:44

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Hi ich, I banned  u for shooting taking off plane with thompson, not sure but it could be Bender inside. I knew u as a good player so I thought u would understand the ban and hoped to see ur appeal here. But I am surprised u forgot about that sfv. Doesnt matter if ure unbanned anyway.

And the bug was caused by enemy who got into vehicle inside the death bubble

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#7 2012-10-05 00:31:41

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

tuia wrote:

That's interesting information. Only reason I can come up is that there was a static object (invisible to the clients) blocking the plane, but only the server can place any static object (buildings, sandbags, trees, etc.), unless it's some kind of exploit.

happened once on kursk when i played, on the end of airfield strip, some guys killed themselves or got injured big_smile

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#8 2012-10-05 02:50:11

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Dudeck wrote:

Hi ich, I banned  u for shooting taking off plane with thompson, not sure but it could be Bender inside. I knew u as a good player so I thought u would understand the ban and hoped to see ur appeal here. But I am surprised u forgot about that sfv. Doesnt matter if ure unbanned anyway.

And the bug was caused by enemy who got into vehicle inside the death bubble

Actually I can't understand to be banned for this without any warning nor kick. I'm a fair-play player, I play the rules, and I play for team. It often happends that some players make voluntary TKs, with bazookas or flak against planes, or jeeps, others baserape... they get only kicked.

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#9 2012-10-05 08:06:12

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

ich is a good player, a bit nervous , when he has to wait for the vehicle , but i think he should be given a second chance, because he plays for the team

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#10 2012-10-05 09:27:10

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Nateos | George wrote:

ich is a good player, a bit nervous , when he has to wait for the vehicle , but i think he should be given a second chance, because he plays for the team

Yes he is....

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#11 2012-10-05 10:40:49

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Ok, most certainly it was an enemy vehicle destroyed by deathbubble, which sometimes stays invisible or in flames, that blocked the plane.

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#12 2012-10-05 12:16:41

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

ich wrote:

Actually I can't understand to be banned for this without any warning

I rather dont warn players for that (sometimes when they make a single shot), quick reaction is needed.

ich wrote:

nor kick

As you are an experienced player, we can presuppose u know the rules so we can demand better behaviour from u. But u didnt even mention damaging that plane in ur first post, is if it was sth normal sad.

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#13 2012-10-05 12:26:05

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Every player should be treated the same way. It's not ok to ban him without kick or ban just because he is an experienced player. He never made trouble before right?

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#14 2012-10-05 12:28:14

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Dudeck wrote:

As you are an experienced player, we can presuppose u know the rules so we can demand better behaviour from u. But u didnt even mention damaging that plane in ur first post, is if it was sth normal sad.

Precisely because I was banned although I should have been only warned or kicked.
Here the problem with the plane was a bigger priority to my mind and I thought I was banned because admins believed I was hacking or sth.

Ok I've been a bit nervous, because I was killed 20 times trying to get the middle flag back, without air support, and when I finally got a plane this one didn't work. How frustrating.

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#15 2012-10-05 12:31:13

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tuia wrote:

Ok, most certainly it was an enemy vehicle destroyed by deathbubble, which sometimes stays invisible or in flames, that blocked the plane.

If an enemy shot you and your plane is burning while you are in the death bubble, then he won't get the kill, you will just die. (*** is no more) When this happens then the plane is invisible afaik...

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#16 2012-10-05 13:50:36

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

dary wrote:

Every player should be treated the same way

I'm not sure, u wanna treat new players who dont know the rules same way as ppl familiar with them? Same with guys who understand u and 'I dont english' russians.

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#17 2012-10-05 14:44:15

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

The rules are the rules. I agree. But I think that everybody can be frustrated by something and do something bad. I think a simple kick can refresh the mind. Then, a ban is ok. But an immediate ban is too much.

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#18 2012-10-05 16:01:33

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

10 or 15min ban-its the the most efficient punishment ban ever made by human mind in our universe!

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#19 2012-10-05 16:27:54

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

1h would be better
edit. after I think about it, we dont need such ban tongue

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#20 2012-10-05 17:35:51

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

!b15mins command added. Don't abuse it!

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#21 2012-10-05 17:50:11

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

can you put back !knoob command sad ?

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#22 2012-10-05 17:52:42

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Denny wrote:

can you put back !knoob command sad ?

No. I think it's a little abusive.

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#23 2012-10-05 17:57:27

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

!kbeginner  maybe big_smile?

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#24 2012-10-05 18:14:07

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

tuia wrote:

!b15mins command added. Don't abuse it!

Why not just !b15 or !bmin, we have to type that muuuuch sad

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#25 2012-10-05 18:58:35

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

Dudeck wrote:

Why not just !b15 or !bmin, we have to type that muuuuch sad

8 characters is that much?! smile
Besides, people being kicked or banned must understand the commands being typed.

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#26 2012-10-05 20:12:18

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Dudeck wrote:
dary wrote:

Every player should be treated the same way

I'm not sure, u wanna treat new players who dont know the rules same way as ppl familiar with them? Same with guys who understand u and 'I dont english' russians.

I just mean a ban is hard, even if player know the rules. But now we finally have 15min. ban so the "I dont English" russian will understand this language very fast. hehe

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#27 2012-10-05 20:49:34

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Re: Ban Appeal : ich

tuia wrote:

people being kicked or banned must understand the commands being typed.

They must understand yellowe messages, but the commands? I often type them in teamchat, even if I kick a player from enemy team. Should I use allchat to kick enemies? Always wondered smile

dary wrote:

I just mean a ban is hard, even if player know the rules.

Today i banned quite a few players for sfv without warning. It happened because their intentions were clear 'Ill shoot u because I want u to get out so I can steal that plane!' or 'Ill shot u because Im a dummy'. Perhaps ich's ban was harsh, true, I knew I would meet him here so we could explain things smile

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