#1 2016-04-02 12:40:53

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3 Teamkill Kick

Playing Simple LA server BF1942 it seems that kicks after 3 team kills.  Shouldn't this be reflected by total score, or at least mitigated by it?  I understand a guy who has a zero or 1-2 point score, but after 40 minutes it's certainly not unimaginable that you will get 3 team kills.  A guy walking right in front of a jeep, tank, a guy next to something that blows up by accident, a grenade where you didn't see them.

I think it brings the pace of the game down when you get punished so severely and the status message is just kicked.  I get base camping and that type of things, I just think the 3TK rule needs to be tweaked.

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#2 2016-04-03 19:18:20

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Hey Soporific. The more you play, the less team kills will happen. As you watch the players, you will see the vast majority play the entire game without getting 3 tks. In the end, even if you do get kicked, its not very severe to simply be kicked and allowed to immediately return to the game, sans the score you had. I am betting with a little more game time under the belt, you too will not be kicked so often.

  Come on back frequently, make friends with some regular folks and kick ass when it happens and the flow is good! Hope to see you in the game.

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#3 2016-04-03 23:24:20

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

yup its not hard to play and not get any tks smile

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#4 2016-04-04 03:28:39

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

PipeR wrote:

yup its not hard to play and not get any tks smile

no its not

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#5 2016-04-04 05:04:42

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

If you get killed by yourself...like driving a jeep into ARcher and it blows both of you up....your personal TK counts too....
solution?
stay away from ARcher....unless you have a Martini to deliver!

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#6 2016-04-04 18:41:36

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Soporific wrote:

Playing Simple LA server BF1942 it seems that kicks after 3 team kills.  Shouldn't this be reflected by total score, or at least mitigated by it?

It could be more flexible, for example it could have a time exponent setting.

There is a "forgive teamkill option" but im not sure if it affects the kick function or the extra spawntime you get when you tk someone or both.

Anyway a player that been teamkilled can open his console and type "ftk" (it means forgive teamkill) (then press enter, he have to do it before he respawn to work i think.

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#7 2016-04-04 19:13:29

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

It's pretty good the way it is.  Use your minimap and be careful about where you throw grenades, drop bombs, lob artillery, and race your jeep and you'll be fine.  Let us know if anyone's deliberately jumping in front of your vehicles; that happens from time to time.  But all in all it makes players play more carefully and it's not too hard to finish a round without being kicked.

Remember that you get three kicks a day, but after that you're banned permanently (or until you come back and ask nicely to have it lifted [bring cupcakes for faster removal]).

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#8 2016-04-04 20:25:00

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Always hilarious when right at the start you have some massive vehicular accident and kill half your team. Had an APC full of teammates cut off my jeep on Berlin once. I think everyone hits the three 3 tk limit from time to time. If you are paying attention, hitting the limit should be rare. I think it's a perfectly acceptable tradeoff for the autokicking of griefers you get in return.

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#9 2016-04-05 00:07:41

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Agreed,.

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#10 2016-04-05 05:00:35

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Seems only tks i'm getting is the ones i do on myself when PiPer shows up sad

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#11 2016-04-05 06:31:38

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... although when you add auto balance into the mix things can get confusing when former foes are now allies!

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#12 2016-04-05 13:12:54

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Oh, are those "three kicks per day" for combined infractions? I'm thinking yes now..

1) kicked for teamkill
2) kicked for calling Oscar a noob
3) kicked for stealing cupcakes

Banned!

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#13 2016-04-05 13:29:12

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It's n00b, n00b!

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#14 2016-04-06 04:11:26

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Vertigo wrote:

Oh, are those "three kicks per day" for combined infractions? I'm thinking yes now..

1) kicked for teamkill
2) kicked for calling Oscar a noob
3) kicked for stealing cupcakes

Banned!


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#15 2016-04-07 08:21:55

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Oscar Goldman wrote:

It's n00b, n00b!

If I'm getting kicked for squeezin Goldie...I'm going to make it worthwhile.



wait for it...







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#16 2016-04-07 16:44:33

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Monkey you are wrong on so many levels it ain't even funny anymore big_smile

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#17 2016-04-07 20:48:13

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Chim Chim, was it good for you?

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#18 2016-04-16 13:23:39

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Pleiades53 wrote:

Hey Soporific. The more you play, the less team kills will happen. As you watch the players, you will see the vast majority play the entire game without getting 3 tks. In the end, even if you do get kicked, its not very severe to simply be kicked and allowed to immediately return to the game, sans the score you had. I am betting with a little more game time under the belt, you too will not be kicked so often.

  Come on back frequently, make friends with some regular folks and kick ass when it happens and the flow is good! Hope to see you in the game.

I hear you Pleiades53, I really have been playing since 2003-4 when it came out.  I'm 41 now.  It happens to my buddy too, and we TK each other when defending something like the airfield on Iwo Jima.  Or assaulting something; just the chaos of a fight.  What I think happens, and this is just my opinion here, is that if you do happen to assault something you might TK someone so it makes some people hesitant to get into the thick of it.  I know it has for me.  If I find a TK'er, I just sit there and shoot near his feet, so he gets kicked quickly.  Better that happen now rather than later I think.

I do like to see my score.  A lot of times, it is low, sometimes I will get a medal.  Mostly me and my "clan" - my buddy, try to be strategically effective.  i.e., holding the airfield at Iwo, or South on Invasion, South on El Alamein or Gazala (odd it's always South).  I get the reason for the kick, and the punishment isn't bad, but I guess I get bummed when I'm kicked for it when I'm not a troll and I'm not going about things in a bad way.  Sometimes it just happens.

Does "ftk" in the console actually work?

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#19 2016-04-16 13:45:19

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

FTK does work and it reduces the time penalty for TKing; im not sure if it cancels out the TK in terms of 1/3 becoming 0/3 or not.

Reading your explanation I do feel you're not quite getting how things are supposed to work.  Everyone TK's, and everyone gets kicked from time to time; I always laugh when a fellow admin gets kicks, but I laugh harder when I do!  However, we are not suppose to TK.  Think of a sport, say basketball, you get 5 fouls and then you're off.  If you get five fouls in one game and the referee sends you off it doesn't matter that you were in "the thick of it" or not, you're out of here buddy!  When I played basketball at high school, and I was on three fouls, then I checked my play, I played with less overt aggression and more careful aggression.  You don't have to stop playing aggressively but, for crying out loud, be careful!  Use your minimap, pay attention to who is around you, not just in the immediate vicinity, but also who might be within lethal range when your grenade, etc, explodes, and be considerate.

I'm not a very good player, and I love my grenades; they get me half of my kills!  But I seldom get kicked for TK's.  When you get kicked for TK'ing then you have to say to yourself "OK, in the next round I'm not going to get ANY TK's".  Challenge yourself to be a better, more careful, player.   

And by the way, team wounding is still an offense even if you are !twound'ing a TK'er: "If I find a TK'er, I just sit there and shoot near his feet".

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#20 2016-04-17 07:12:09

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Re: 3 Teamkill Kick

Winston Smith wrote:

And by the way, team wounding is still an offense even if you are !twound'ing a TK'er: "If I find a TK'er, I just sit there and shoot near his feet".

I don't shoot them, I shoot near them to clarify.  That always seems to get the guy who just put 4 rounds into my legs to put 4 more into me.

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#21 2016-04-18 17:36:29

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Its a fair provocation to shoot at their feet, causing them to become auto kicked when they reach 3 and then you are on your way back to playing adults. I believe the vast majority of those folks are adolescents. If they are not actually children then certainly their intelligence quotient lies in this sophomoric range.
Either way, you come out smelling like a rose.
And as Winston mentioned, the FTK absolutely does work!
Hope to catch you in game soon.

Soporific wrote:
Winston Smith wrote:

And by the way, team wounding is still an offense even if you are !twound'ing a TK'er: "If I find a TK'er, I just sit there and shoot near his feet".

I don't shoot them, I shoot near them to clarify.  That always seems to get the guy who just put 4 rounds into my legs to put 4 more into me.

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