#1 2016-03-21 17:28:58

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what a terrible examination problem we had!

Last week, we had a examination.There is one grammar problem which killed 90% of us!
And the teacher can't explain why the answer "B" is right.
We are all crazy!!!!
here it is:

  I looked through the window,________ I saw the church.
A.from which        B.from where      C.from that      D.WTF?

Which one will you choose?
The same with me:A?
or the "right" answer:B?
or D?  smile
Please tell your reason.

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#2 2016-03-21 18:05:29

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

I'd say you can say both. From which and from where. But from where sounds more natural to me.

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#3 2016-03-21 18:16:11

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

Your teacher included "WTF" as an option?

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#4 2016-03-21 18:30:02

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

i'd say "from there". but thinking about and answer B indeed is correct one, because "from which" would mean like you watched from the window, what is not so, because you watched from the place where you been located watching through the window
'lerning English with joint'

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#5 2016-03-21 19:16:08

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

There are a lot of native English speakers on the forum. Hope they can help you.

Yoda, where are you when we really need you here?

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#6 2016-03-21 19:35:34

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

I'd say it depends on the context. It can be A and B.

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#7 2016-03-21 19:59:42

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

I think it's A.

But that still sounds weird.  Most would just say 'I looked through the window and saw the church" or " I saw the church through the window. "

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#8 2016-03-21 20:35:18

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

lol Sunshine would failed English exam in China
Sunshine, can you tell what different beetwin "from" and "out of",  "jump from plane" or "jump out of plane"?
because in Russian, for example, those are exactly the same.

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#9 2016-03-21 21:25:17

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Aaaaaaaaa

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#10 2016-03-21 21:33:47

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

joint wrote:

lol Sunshine would failed English exam in China
Sunshine, can you tell what different beetwin "from" and "out of",  "jump from plane" or "jump out of plane"?
because in Russian, for example, those are exactly the same.

"от" и "из"

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#11 2016-03-21 22:54:44

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

joint wrote:

beetwin

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#12 2016-03-21 23:13:11

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

sank81 wrote:

Which one will you choose?
The same with me:A?
or the "right" answer:B?
or D?  smile
Please tell your reason.

It is "B", for sure.

I'm not well versed enough to describe a proper reason, but here goes..

The emphasis of that sentence seems to be "you looking at a church".

Answer "A" attempts to emphasize the window itself.

Answer "B" tells us where YOU were while looking at the church.

So in summary, answer "A" sounds like shit..

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#13 2016-03-21 23:14:23

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

Sonic wrote:
joint wrote:

lol Sunshine would failed English exam in China
Sunshine, can you tell what different beetwin "from" and "out of",  "jump from plane" or "jump out of plane"?
because in Russian, for example, those are exactly the same.

"от" и "из"

not necessarly, sometimes its vice versa, sometimes both or neither

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#14 2016-03-21 23:21:18

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Vertigo wrote:
sank81 wrote:

Which one will you choose?
The same with me:A?
or the "right" answer:B?
or D?  smile
Please tell your reason.

It is "B", for sure.

I'm not well versed enough to describe a proper reason, but here goes..

The emphasis of that sentence seems to be "you looking at a church".

Answer "A" attempts to emphasize the window itself.

Answer "B" tells us where YOU were while looking at the church.

So in summary, answer "A" sounds like shit..

also you would rather watched 'out of' a window to chorch and 'from' a window to chorch would measured the distance, right? or both sound good in the context where you watched on chorch?

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#15 2016-03-21 23:30:39

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

joint wrote:
Vertigo wrote:
sank81 wrote:

Which one will you choose?
The same with me:A?
or the "right" answer:B?
or D?  smile
Please tell your reason.

It is "B", for sure.

I'm not well versed enough to describe a proper reason, but here goes..

The emphasis of that sentence seems to be "you looking at a church".

Answer "A" attempts to emphasize the window itself.

Answer "B" tells us where YOU were while looking at the church.

So in summary, answer "A" sounds like shit..

also you would rather watched 'out of' a window to chorch and 'from' a window to chorch would measured the distance, right? or both sound good in the context where you watched on chorch?

Sounds both weird. There are no real grammar rules in English when to use which preposition in which situation. You have to know it by heart and that is a real pain.

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#16 2016-03-21 23:38:29

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

ok, so how would you say- it comes from heart, or out of heart?

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#17 2016-03-21 23:41:10

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from the heart, I guess.

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#18 2016-03-21 23:46:04

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

From there i saw the church

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#19 2016-03-22 11:40:48

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natives dont help much..

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#20 2016-03-22 11:55:46

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

Easiest way:

*point* "Church."

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#21 2016-03-22 12:02:44

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Easiest way:

*point* "Church."

at least you have tried smile

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#22 2016-03-22 17:15:29

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

seventy wrote:

Your teacher included "WTF" as an option?

Only three choices,D is my joke.:p

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#23 2016-03-22 17:22:33

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joint wrote:

i'd say "from there". but thinking about and answer B indeed is correct one, because "from which" would mean like you watched from the window, what is not so, because you watched from the place where you been located watching through the window
'lerning English with joint'

sounds reasonable....

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#24 2016-03-22 17:23:54

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

joint wrote:

lol Sunshine would failed English exam in China
Sunshine, can you tell what different beetwin "from" and "out of",  "jump from plane" or "jump out of plane"?
because in Russian, for example, those are exactly the same.

well,only 1 point he lost

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#25 2016-03-22 17:26:51

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joint wrote:

natives dont help much..

they are free from grammar problem..andthey can speak as they are used to.

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#26 2016-03-22 18:28:08

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

sank81 wrote:

Last week, we had a examination.There is one grammar problem which killed 90% of us!
And the teacher can't explain why the answer "B" is right.
We are all crazy!!!!
here it is:

  I looked through the window,________ I saw the church.
A.from which        B.from where      C.from that      D.WTF?

Which one will you choose?
The same with me:A?
or the "right" answer:B?
or D?  smile
Please tell your reason.


The reason B is correct on the grammar question is because the preposition (through) is clarifying the location, and not the window itself.

But the sentence is awkward.  We would say, "I saw the church though the window."   There is no doubt you would be "looking through the window" to see the church.

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#27 2016-03-23 16:14:53

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ATF_SurrenderMonkey wrote:
sank81 wrote:

Last week, we had a examination.There is one grammar problem which killed 90% of us!
And the teacher can't explain why the answer "B" is right.
We are all crazy!!!!
here it is:

  I looked through the window,________ I saw the church.
A.from which        B.from where      C.from that      D.WTF?

Which one will you choose?
The same with me:A?
or the "right" answer:B?
or D?  smile
Please tell your reason.


The reason B is correct on the grammar question is because the preposition (through) is clarifying the location, and not the window itself.

But the sentence is awkward.  We would say, "I saw the church though the window."   There is no doubt you would be "looking through the window" to see the church.

well,I think it is hard to pronounce,but we had to choose the better one.

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#28 2016-03-23 19:40:40

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

...

As example... in german a and b is correct.

a. = durch welches / von welchem

b. = von wo

...

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#29 2016-03-28 06:30:04

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

interesting

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#30 2016-03-28 10:28:56

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Re: what a terrible examination problem we had!

B is correct...but like Sunshine said...people don't really talk like that.  A could be correct if you changed the verbiage.


Question:
How did you see the church if you were inside?

Answer:
I looked through the window and I could see the church from there.

Sonic wrote:
joint wrote:

lol Sunshine would failed English exam in China
Sunshine, can you tell what different beetwin "from" and "out of",  "jump from plane" or "jump out of plane"?
because in Russian, for example, those are exactly the same.

"от" и "из"

They mean the same thing depending on how you word it...

For example:

Question:
Specifically, how did he exit the plane?

He jumped out of the plane from the door.
He jumped from the plane out of the door.

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