#1 2012-07-12 17:50:53

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allow attacking mains ?

i don't like the no baserape / attack rule

it makes the game more static, uniform, boring, and less diverse ...

on some maps, this rule means the two sides almost passively stand in front of each other, doing nothing ....

bf1942 should be about action ! - not having to wait for the enemy to make a move

who makes / changes the rules for this server ?

have you considered allowing this ?

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#2 2012-07-12 18:02:52

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

There is no need for a discussion! The baseraperule will stay like it is! Im 100% sure that we wont change that!

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#3 2012-07-12 18:42:50

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

X=X=X=X=X=X=X=X, you do have a point. However, constant basecamping and baseraping is annoying. You just spawn and you're instantly killed by a tank stolen from your main base, take Kursk map for example.
There are other popular BF1942 servers where you are allowed to basecamp, like RusBF.ru, MoonGamers and Netorn server, so if you don't enjoy our rule you can play there.

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#4 2012-07-12 19:15:50

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

it's ten times more annoying having to wait for minutes for the enemy to advance, (which they mostly dont) because you arent allowed to advance yourself.


main base attacking / rape is allowed on these maps :

Coral Sea
Midway
Aberdeen
Invasion of the Philippines
Omaha Beach
Iwo Jima
Wake
Battle of Britain


Partially on these :


Berlin
Stalingrad
Tobruk
Battle of the Bulge
Liberation of Caen


and not on these :


Gazala
Battleaxe
Kharkov
Kursk
El Alamein
Guadalcanal
Bocage
Market Garden


it makes absolutely no sense that it is allowed on some maps, and not on others ....

baserape is just as "annoying" on coral, aberdeen, philly, omaha, iwo, wake, bob, as on the rest of the maps

waiting generally is one of the most annoying things ... whether in videogames or in real life ..... and waiting is what you have to do, constantly, because of this rule

the server would be a lot more fun if baserape was allowed on ALL 21 maps ... and not just 8 of them, like things currently are

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#5 2012-07-12 19:59:37

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

And how do you want our players to understand that rule? I mean some of them didnt get the old rule and the new one from you is much more complicated.
Baserape is one of the most annoying noob things beginners do. Its destroying all the fun when you get killed at spawn. Its disruptively when they steal your teams vehicles and so on.
SO i dont think that we´ll change that rule!

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#6 2012-07-12 20:05:18

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

Totally agree with Zody.

If u want to basecamp or baserape go to another server.
tuia mentioned some...

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#7 2012-07-12 20:07:01

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

its a VERY simple rule .... :

you can go all over the map .... and attack the enemy everywhere .... cant get much simpler than that



=|Joker$|=Zody wrote:

Baserape is one of the most annoying noob things beginners do.

yes ... and 80 % of the players on any public 1942 server are noobs, and that will never change ... its natural to be allowed to go all over the map in any shooter ..

bf1942 was never designed or meant to be a no baserape game ...


another thing : main chat is constantly filled with players and admins complaining about baserape .... that itself is annoying ....

50 % of all chat seems to be related to base rape whining ....

allowing baserape would make this disappear and reduce the admin workload significantly



this server has run for a long time now, the game is ten years old, and people will continue to do it again and again no matter what you do ....

MoonGamers and others have allowed baserape for years with great success .... you should too .... it would make the server much more entertaining and fun .....

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#8 2012-07-12 20:39:19

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

So whats the fun if i only have main to spawn and some wespe or tank is killing me and destroying every plane...im gonna need to spawn about 5 times with zooka and find ways how to kill him, ive been playing like that on Moongamers and its really annoying, btw the europeans maybe have this stupid no baserape rule, but surely we are better players than usa and we showed them too tongue

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#9 2012-07-12 22:04:36

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

Please....
Base rape in stalingrad=guys(pro) with expacks on spawn and tank....

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#10 2012-07-14 00:53:57

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

Im against of allowing basecamp.......
it is really not nice when you spawn and die within seconds, at these moments all what you do just receiving  booms.

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#11 2012-07-22 14:58:22

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

I agree with X=X=X=X=X=X=X=X.
This isnt that game... this isnt CoD. Just going with sniper behind the enemys base at Battleaxe with my friend and kill... hell yea. And of course theres more thing.
If you keep dying just choose other spawn point. If you cant cuz your team sux, then you will lose anyway. -.- I know that feel, but i never cry about that. This is part of the war.

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#12 2012-07-22 15:47:40

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

Hmmm everyone can do spawnkills... that's why i am for NO MAINBASERAPE... go to another server when you don´t like it on SiMPLE, but when you play there then respect the rules... camping everyone can do, skillful play not all... that they learn from us wink

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#13 2012-07-24 22:09:09

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

Shing, do try to play in servers where basecamping is allowed, and make an effort to always play on the losing side, the team that's being basecamped. Especially, in maps like Kursk or Battleaxe, when they steal all your vehicles and you are cornered in your main base. It's no fun to play like that, maybe to those that basecamp is.

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#14 2012-07-27 23:37:54

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Base rapers need to be banned.

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#15 2012-07-28 01:05:08

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

attacking and defending main bases takes exactly as much or little skill as other bases

its a real pity you wont allow it ....

no main base attacks is boring, monotonous, and for noobs

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#16 2012-07-28 06:55:21

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

Buckshot wrote:

Base rapers need to be banned.


But in another thread you complain about my work, can you decide?


X=X=X=X=X=X=X=X wrote:

attacking and defending main bases takes exactly as much or little skill as other bases

its a real pity you wont allow it ....

no main base attacks is boring, monotonous, and for noobs


Then go on to another Server... and read will help... but you will not understand the grounds we have no mainbaserape?!
You are in my eyes no good player, when you can only do mainbaserape! Learn to play! and mainbaserape is monotonous...
But you know just more like the others have been playing for years, this I've already noticed...

And to your list where mainbaserappe allowed... attack at all impregnable flags is not allowed... you see why other maps you can...
there is no impregnable flag...

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#17 2012-07-30 00:12:39

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

is sniping into main uncaps currently allowed ?

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#18 2012-07-30 00:19:48

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

X=X=X=X=X=X=X=X wrote:

is sniping into main uncaps currently allowed ?

yes

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#19 2012-07-30 00:59:54

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is sniping the only attack thats allowed into main uncaps ?

what about long distance "sniping" with an assault rifle into main uncap ... allowed too ?

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#20 2012-07-30 02:46:10

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

No. That's weird, but these are actual rules. I hate that sniper rule for example (that's the reason I'm about to stop flying, cause I don't want to keep jumping like some ADHD clown waiting for a plane, but I respect it. Same u should respect basecamp rule.

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#21 2012-08-07 16:50:55

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

i think rules are fine

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#22 2012-08-07 21:08:22

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

Rules are good for conquest maps. On foot soldiers should be allowed. If they grab some equipment then they should leave the area with int and not camp. I think that is a rule already?

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#23 2012-08-07 23:52:01

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

Buckshot wrote:

Rules are good for conquest maps. On foot soldiers should be allowed. If they grab some equipment then they should leave the area with int and not camp. I think that is a rule already?

no, thats not the rule. Your not allowed to steal vehicles out of the headquarters. And foot soldiers are also not allowed to camp jsut because they are foot soldiers.

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#24 2012-08-08 01:10:17

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

I would be careful with allowing basecamping. The server I usually play on allows it, and a lot of people do nothing but basecamping. Certain people simply do NOTHING else but finding the cheapest way to get kills. That includes pixelling and going straight to enemy main via jeep or car, to expack camped mains or to steal equipment and raping that main with it. Same kind of people think it makes them the best.

It's not only a few people doing it, way too much people do it. Fighting for normal flags has become unimportant, it is just about who can get the most points playing in the most cheap way possible, or who can grief others the best. That has perverted the game to a disgusting level.

I really enjoy that on your server, there aren't always people shooting you in the back 1 second after you spawned in main. The battle is where it belongs, at the flags you can capture. Please don't change that, you will regret it.

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#25 2012-08-08 01:30:39

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Angerfist, if tuia changes the rule, the deathbubble will still remain. Thats means you can not steal vehicles... if we regret it, he can still change the rule.

I played once at MoonGamers, the server really sucks. No fun at all...

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#26 2012-08-08 04:05:57

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

dary wrote:

I played once at moongamer, the server really sucks. No fun at all...

Our server has, like SiMPLE, advantages and disadvantages.

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#27 2012-08-08 14:43:41

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

i agree with Angerfist, but i would like to know the advantages of moon server tongue ?

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#28 2012-08-08 15:20:30

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base rape allowed

low spawn times

freecam

45+ minute rounds

punkbuster on

plenty of fast spawning jeeps on maps where they are needed

pixeling allowed

main + admin chat not constantly filled with admin warnings

admins almost always use admin tags

mostly english in main chat

teamspeak

bftracks viewable

real nice forum with loads of features



and many other things .....

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#29 2012-08-08 16:10:47

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Re: allow attacking mains ?

I agree, rules on Moon are more straighforward and easilly compreended by all and rarely discussed in game or on forums. Its really a sucessfull server for some years because of admins work (very subtle) and I always I had fun there still keeping the competitive side on. Basecamping, as Anger said, is probably the more problematic but i dont think it´s really an issue except for 2 or 3 maps.

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#30 2012-08-08 16:19:02

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X=X=X=X=X=X=X=X wrote:

base rape allowed disadvantage

low spawn times why should this deemed as an advantage?

freecam after you kill someone he can easily chase you with the freecam... for me disadvantage

45+ minute rounds omg 45 min. midway, philippines? disadvantage big_smile

punkbuster on punkbuster wasnt updated decades, every noob can cheat without gettin caught, except cody and blueboy big_smile

plenty of fast spawning jeeps on maps where they are needed on SiMPLE are as well enough jeeps and vehicles

pixeling allowed i dont see an advantage... only on aberdeen to get rid of the pad lamer

main + admin chat not constantly filled with admin warnings true, even for an admin its not easy to see everything

admins almost always use admin tags why is this better?

mostly english in main chat true, too many languages spoken on SiMPLE

teamspeak on this forum you can find a communication tool, dont know if its used

bftracks viewable for some maybe important, but i dont care about this

real nice forum with loads of features gonna check it out, but this forum is nice too



and many other things .....

It depends on what map, but maps like and Bocage or El Alamein are not fun at all... its like Angerfist said, noobs bailing at base to steal a tanks. Thats how they can manage to do kills...

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